Ever hear of NewsBrig.com?
Nope, me neither. But I had to investigate them after this nonsensical attack on protesters in Michigan and a rapidly increasing number of states (including southern California, believe it or not!) which have been holding protests about governmental overreach in the Wuhan Flu era. As a result, this post is going to 100% steal their entire article. You're welcome.
A trio of far-right, pro-gun provocateurs is behind some of the largest Facebook groups calling for anti-quarantine protests across the country, offering the latest illustration that some seemingly organic demonstrations are being engineered by a network of conservative activists.I don't know anything about Tori Holland other than the fact that she's a complete moron. But I'm going to guess she voted for President Monkey. Before he was President Monkey he was Senator Monkey, and before that he was Community Organizer Monkey. What does a community organizer do? Organize communities, presumably. Like, Holland and her ilk understand that groups and events need somebody organizing them right? Rather than say engineered why not say organized? Well, because that doesn't sound as sinister and scary. Maybe she's not a moron, actually: maybe she's just fundamentally wicked.
The Facebook groups target Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York, and they appear to be the work of Ben Dorr, the political director of a group called Minnesota Gun Rights, and his siblings Christopher and Aaron. By Sunday, the groups had more than 200,000 members combined, and they continued to expand quickly, days after President Donald Trump endorsed such protests by suggesting citizens should “liberate” their states.It sure sounds like the Dorr Brothers took a lay of the land, tapped into a growing public sentiment that is not being permitted free expression in the regular media landscape, and have found their little Facebook group exploding in popularity. Pretty much everybody who dreams of rallying the masses to their cause hopes this sort of thing happens. Good on you, Dorr Brothers. It seems that President Donald J. Trump, who also is good at "smelling" the lay of the land, is also if not endorsing these protests at least discussing some critical thinking skills. Again, anybody who swooned over "if I had a son he'd look like Trayvon Martin" has no right to be upset about this.
The online activity implies that opposition to the restrictions is more widespread than polling suggests. Nearly 70% of Republicans said they supported a national stay-home order, according to a recent Quinnipiac poll. Ninety-five percent of Democrats backed such a measure in the survey.There's probably more a discrepancy in passion than an error in the polling here. However, and this is worth noting, if the goal of these people is to change the numbers and convince those 83% of Americans who support the quarantine measures that they are wrong, then getting out mass protests and acts of civil disobedience is probably a pretty good way to achieve that.
The Facebook groups have become digital hubs for the same sort of misinformation spouted in recent days at state capitols — from comparing the virus to the flu to questioning the intentions of scientists working on a vaccine.If lying moron Tori Holland really thinks that it's "misinformation" to "[question] the intentions of scientists" then what does she think of, for a minor example, this? Or is "questioning the intentions of scientists" the sort of thing she endorses when the scientists are talking about things she personally isn't a fan of? And whether the scientists are pure or not, where's the "misinformation"? Similarly, comparing the virus to the flu isn't "misinformation" either. There's giant holes in our knowledge of the Wuhan Flu big enough to drive a Mac Truck through. As Ezra Levant notes in this video, "misinformation" has been coming routinely from the official government sources.It's a conspiracy theory to not trust the information out of China: two weeks later it turns out intelligence services from Germany to the USA are investigating the virus lab angle. Is it misinformation to say the virus may have come from the Wuhan Lab on March 10th? April 10th? May 10th? December 10th? It was misinformation to say in early January that there was no human-to-human contact, wasn't it? On April 3rd Tori Holland herself published how many doctors -- doctors, mind -- were using hydroxychloroquine. This might have something to do with the fact that on March 29th the American College of Cardiology was talking about studies showing it may be effective. On April 15th, CNN cited that the French were finding it didn't work. So "misinformation" is a very disingenuous word to bandy around.
Public health experts say stay-home orders are necessary to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus, which has killed more than 35,000 people in the United States. The Trump administration last week outlined three phases for states to reopen safely — guidelines contradicted by the president when he urged citizens to rise up against the rules that heed the recommendations of his own public-health advisers.Tori Holland is lying about President Trump.
“If people feel that way, you’re allowed to protest,” Trump said Sunday. “Some governors have gone too far, some of the things that happened are maybe not so appropriate.”
She's a liar.
When did Trump "contradict guidelines" with his statement? His statement was that some governors have taken steps to restrict movement that has little bearing on controlling the virus. For example, gun stores have been ruled non-essential and forced to close in some states: seeing how alcohol and tobacco sales have not been similarly curtailed, that seems a clear attack on gun rights. Even as the Pennsylvania Supreme Court waivered, Governor Wolf reversed course and rescinded his order to close gun stores. A church in Louisville is now suing Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear over his ban on church services (this is sort-of-unrelated-but-not-really to the church in Louisville that got one of the greatest court judgements ever on Easter Saturday). California essentially closed down the Pacific Ocean just because a bunch of people on social media were freaking out over pictures of cars parked near parks. It's not entirely unrealistic to think this might be overreach. As I noted already, this is a virus, not a tornado. Meanwhile, is it not permitted to challenge the statement "public health experts say stay-home orders are necessary"? Stay-home orders, one may note, are currently not in effect in any Canadian provinces (except parts of Alberta and Queerbec) and are only in effect in 19/50 U.S. States. In other words, there's some lively debate to be had about whether a "stay at home order" that restricts people exercising at the same time 10 feet away from each other is "too far" or "not so appropriate" as President Donald J. Trump has remarked. This doesn't even remotely "contradict" guidelines for States wishing to go from Massachusetts-level to New Hampsire-level to Alabama-level to Ontario-level to Alberta-level...let's note that even under President Donald J. Trump's re-open guidelines large numbers of places including bars still won't be opening.
Facebook said Sunday that it did not plan to take action to remove the groups or events, partly because states have not outlawed them. Organizers also have called for “drive-in” protests, in keeping with recommendations that people keep a short distance between one another. In other cases, involving protests planned for states such as New Jersey and California, the company has removed that content, Facebook said.Facebook should not be removing groups. Period. End of story. One notes that the Huntington Beach protests happened anyways and were very well attended, despite happening in Huntington Freaking Beach. Meanwhile Facebook had no problem with the "Wet’suwet’en Strong: Hamilton in Solidarity" Facebook group that was advocating for illegal pipeline blockades earlier this year. Moronic little Tori Holland never bothered to do the smallest investigation into Facebook's constant anti-conservative bias? Or again, is she wicked and evil and deserving of a punch to the face? In fact, from the Global News article:
In a live stream posted on Facebook by local Indigenous media outlet Real Peoples Media, reportedly taken about 15 minutes after OPP arrived, dozens of officers stand face-to-face with protesters.So where was Holland upset about Facebook not taking action against its site being used to promote illegal blockades? Anyways, back to the nonsense over at NewsBrig.com:
“Look at all these guns against us. How many years? How many years have you had these guns against us?” one protester asks police in the video. The officers do not respond.
“This is Mohawk territory you’re on. You guys are trespassing.”
“Unless government prohibits the event during this time, we allow it to be organized on Facebook. For this same reason, events that defy government’s guidance on social distancing aren’t allowed on Facebook,” said Andy Stone, a spokesman for the company.Funny how when conservatives use social media, there's the most deep down dives ever into figuring out "how did this happen". At no point did the media investigate who created "Hamilton in Solidarity" and finding out what evil stuff they have been up to...
None of the Dorr brothers responded to calls and emails Sunday.
Wisconsinites Against Excessive Quarantine was created Wednesday by Ben Dorr. His brother Christopher is the creator of Pennsylvanians Against Excessive Quarantine, as well as Ohioans Against Excessive Quarantine. A third brother, Aaron, is the creator of New Yorkers Against Excessive Quarantine.
The online coordination offered additional clues about how the protest activity is spreading nationwide, capturing the imagination of the president and of Fox News even though it represents the views of a small minority of Americans. Trump himself tied the protests to gun rights — a major cause for the Dorr brothers — in telling Virginians that the Second Amendment was “under siege” as he urged them to “liberate” the state.Good heavens! Conservatives are daring to organize online! How can something with "represents the views of a small minority of Americans" possibly be connected with protests? That's never ever happened before. Like...ever. Hey remember when Stephen Harper removed the long-form census and got the left into a tizzy? It was because of a single (left-wing) activist who apparently had the entire country against her but was poised to win important court cases on constitutional issues: maybe these Trump surrogates are thinking they can get a piece of this action? Maybe they will turn out to even be right? Again, it's clear that when conservatives dare to use their voice to express their views and engage in political discussions that might spark a broader brushfire in the general population, suddenly its an astroturfing nightmare that has to be quelched. Meanwhile, "pro-Trump figures" have been involved in a poltical discussion! Egads! Again note the rampant hypocrisy: when "pro-Rachel figures" were involved in protest movements opposed to Alberta's oilsands development ("representing the views of a small minority of" Albertans) this didn't mean anything about Rachel Arab's actual beliefs or policy objectives: even when Rachel Arab herself appeared at them. Yet now groups with a lot of conservatives can be "affilitated with prominent conservative donors" and that's newsworthy.
On the ground, pro-Trump figures — including some who act as surrogates for his campaign — as well as groups affiliated with prominent conservative donors have helped organize and promote the demonstrations.
Some of the most vehement protest activity, in Michigan, has been organized by the Michigan Conservative Coalition. Its founders are a Republican state lawmaker and his wife, Meshawn Maddock, who sits on the Trump campaign’s advisory board and is a prominent figure in the Women for Trump coalition. Jeanine Pirro, a Fox News host and avid Trump supporter, interviewed Maddock on her show Saturday, telling her, “Keep going. Thank you.”So what? A TV opinion host agrees with a guest and gives them words of encouragement. When niggerfag Don Lemon interviewed fellow ass pirate Pete Buttigieg and did much the same thing were there endless thinkpieces about it in NewsBrig? Of course not! And let's all get up in arms that a Republican who ran for governor would be opposed to the actions a Democrat governor takes...
Also promoting the demonstrations — including spending several hundred dollars to advertise the event on Facebook — was the Michigan Freedom Fund, which is headed by Greg McNeilly, a longtime adviser to the DeVos family. He served as campaign manager for Dick DeVos, the husband of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, when he ran unsuccessfully for governor of Michigan in 2006.
The state’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, who has become a target for Trump and his conservative allies, last week criticized the nonprofit, noting that it was “funded in large part by the DeVos family,” and saying it was “really inappropriate for a sitting member of the United States president’s Cabinet to be waging political attacks on any governor, but obviously, on me here at home.”Again what's wrong withe the DeVos family spending their money? Let's remember that as long as biased media shills like Tori Holland cover conservative movements in bad faith, conservatives will routinely have to spend money in order to get the exposure that the left gets automatically under headings like "online outcry" without any digging into the people behind it. Meanwhile has a "sitting member of the United States president’s Cabinet" ever waged "political attacks" on a governor? Well I don't know, was President Monkey a sitting member of his cabinet? Is "you shouldn't run for office" a "political attack"? The mind reels...
McNeilly said the funds used to promote the event were “not dedicated program funds” but instead came from “our grass-roots fundraising efforts,” and so had “nothing to do with any DeVos work.”This seems like ridiculously in-the-reeds bookkeeping stuff nobody actually cares about. The little tidbit that libertarian gun owners don't like the NRA is literally a over a quarter century old, but leftists are clueless so I'm not surprised they have to keep being reminded about these things.
The Dorr brothers manage a slew of pro-gun groups across a wide range of states, from Iowa to Minnesota to New York, and seek primarily to discredit organizations such as the National Rifle Association as being too compromising on gun safety. Minnesota Gun Rights, for which Ben Dorr serves as political director, describes itself as the state’s “no-compromise gun rights organization.”
In numerous states, they have bypassed rules requiring them to register as lobbyists by arguing that they are instead involved in “pro-gun grassroots mobilization,” as “Ohio Gun Owners,” whose board Chris Dorr directs, describes its work.
A now-retired state legislator in Iowa, who in 2017 sought to close a loophole allowing the brothers to skirt lobbying rules, said he was not surprised that the Dorr brothers were involved in fomenting resistance to the public health precautions.Activists get involved in controversial issues? That's amazing wisdom there Clel. Naomi Klein is now saying she's been warning us all along about the Wuhan Flu (she just mis-typed it "climate change"), but heaven forbid people who beleive in limited government speak out against massive government largesse and heavy-handed action.
“The brothers will do anything to fan the flames of a controversial issue, and maybe make a quick nickel,” said the former state legislator, Republican Clel Baudler.
Nearly 97,000 people had joined Wisconsinites Against Excessive Quarantine by Sunday afternoon, a Facebook group whose posts are visible only to members that said Democratic Gov. Tony Evers has been on a “power trip, controlling our lives, destroying our businesses” and “forcing us to hand over our freedoms and our livelihood!” In the group, some members speculated that Evers closed most state businesses and shuttered schools to appease pharmaceutical giants — not because of data showing that the novel coronavirus is highly contagious and deadly, infecting more than 4,300 in the state and killing 220.All 97,000 of them? No, just 'some'. But hey, they're probably wrong thinking large pharmaceutical companies are involved in a conspiracy of...hey wait, isn't this the same logic anti-GMO activists use? Don't they get fawning media coverage? Meanwhile what's the problem with referring to the actions Evers took as "controlling our lives, destroying our businesses"? Is there anybody (pro- or anti-Evers) who says that isn't thinking that's true? Also, is it an A-or-B proposition? Is it possible that the closure of businesses and schools can be not to appease BigPharma or because of the deadly virus epidemic and instead just be because all people and governments have gone crazy and are massively overreacting? In the same way that we look down on the frenzy of the Salem Witch Trials or the French Revolution, will future centuries wonder why we went so crazy for a disease that as deadly pandemics fare may not even match the 1968 Hong Kong Flu? Apparently you aren't permitted such thoughts or expression of those beliefs. So says Tori Holland! Listen, people! (or else)
The group, along with Ben Dorr, created an event on Facebook for an April 24 “drive-in rally” at the Capitol that has attracted hundreds of pledged participants. They also seek to steer visitors to a website for the Wisconsin Firearms Coalition, where people can enter their names, email addresses and other contact information and share their views with the state’s governor. In doing so, they encourage visitors who are not “already a member of the Wisconsin Firearms Coalition” to “join us.” A page asking users to join the Minnesota group offered several rates for membership, from $35 to $1,000.This is the "smoking gun" (pardon the pun) followup to ol' Clel Baudler talking about "making a quick nickel". Political activism costs money, and we've seen how much these forensic media types love digging into DeVos records to see who they funded. So if you can't get money from the big guys, get donations or memberships from the Average Joe. Oops, turns out the leftist media horde hate that too. But wait a minute, all sorts of media organizations are publicly providing their Wuhan Flu coverage but also asking people to subscribe or donate. When The Guardian puts that little blurb on the bottom of every article asking for money (and describing Canadian IP addresses as "readers like you across America in all 50 states" in the same blurb where they talk about how important the truth is) how is that any different than the Wiscounsin Firearms Coalition trying to get people to sign up to their group and contribute to the cause they apparently believe in?
Another private Facebook group focused on Pennsylvania, gaining more than 63,000 members by Sunday. Many questioned the wisdom of wearing masks publicly, contrary to recommendations by state and federal officials, and linked to a similar website catering to Pennsylvania gun owners. Still another targeting New York had become a forum for about 23,000 members to question whether the coronavirus is really that bad — despite the fact New York City has become the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak.The current mass delusion that "a single life is worth the entire value of the global economy" notwithstanding, both the death toll from the virus and the reaction will have a negative economic impact. Public policy will have to decide where to draw that line and why. The fact that policy makers have only been looking at one side of the ledger has perhaps been forgivable, but cannot continue and eventually (why not now?!) other voices (in a democracy, mind...) will need to start being involved and speaking up. NYC is both the single worst city on the planet for the Wuhan Flu and also the richest major city impact which means its also most hammered by the economic impact. Even in NYC those 23,000 members are half the size of the total number of confirmed cases...many of those will be suffering mild sniffles and wondering if this is all worth it. Is there any overlap between confirmed cases and members of this group? Maybe...one of the problems with the insanely pessimistic models is that we got sold a "worst crisis ever" bag of goods and the product is failing to deliver. Yes NYC has a lot of deaths and stay-at-home may be required to slow the spread to avoid overwhelming the healthcare system...but in other American cities the "overwhelmed" healthcare system is wondering when the patients are going to show up. Authorities in Ohio aren't even releasing their information, which means those who are questioning the wisdom of #FlattenTheCurve mitigation efforts are getting the sense that the public health authorities don't want to admit how badly they've been overreacting. In this environment you can start to question any wisdom...and as Colby Cosh wrote April 7th "People in Dr. Tam's position will find it difficult to recoup the goodwill they have clumsily spilled" by flip-flopping on masks. Cosh also notes that there still isn't necessarily any evidence about masks, so there's a nonzero chance that advice will be flipped a second time. NewsBrig wants to make it seem like questioning this mask advise was silly but a month ago wouldn't they have said questioning that mask advise was silly?
“While seizing power at a breathtaking pace,” the group’s description began, “Andrew Cuomo is sending NY’s economy into a death spiral!”
Dozens of other Facebook pages, groups and events similarly promote protests targeting stay-home orders in state capitals nationwide. Permitting some of this content — including coordinated efforts on the part of conservative activists — marks a break with Facebook’s strict new rules governing content about the pandemic.Those would be the "strict rules" like a conservative protest group is shadowbanned and often shut down while a leftist protest group is given free reign?
Since the outbreak began, the tech giant has barred a wide array of false or misleading posts, photos and videos, including those promoting cures that do not exist. The company also has deployed its fact checkers to debunk dangerous myths about the pandemic and its origins, and it has warned people about their interactions with online misinformation. Guiding Facebook’s approach — more aggressive than it typically takes even against known falsehoods — is a belief that it must stop the spread of dangerous mistruths on the platform amid a global health crisis.Yeah funny about that, it turns out that the Facebook fact checking team is censoring as "misinformation" things that may or may not be true but are certainly inconvenient. And as Ezra noted above, this whole "misinformation" thing is a dangerous game to play when nobody is still 100% sure what the facts are. Some of the dangerous myths were promoted by major media figures and government press releases, but at the time they represented agreed upon wisdom so Facebook left them alone. It turns out, of course, that even in a "global health care crisis" they play to their known anti-conservative bias. Also note the slur-by-association: Joey McScammer saying that his special diet pills can cure Coronavirus [can't we get some of that Mike Sonko Kenya cure? -ed] is a scam pure and simple, so therefore its totally appropriate for Facebook to delete "dangerous misinformation" like speculating about the difference in official versus unofficial totals in China (even though you can speculate about the difference in official versus unofficial totals in France without any trouble). And what's with "dangerous myths about the pandemic and its origins"? If COVID-19 was cooked up in a lab or accidentally transmitted from a bat, what's dangerous about somebody advocating one theory over the other? Besides "asking China if they bothered to cook up a cure" what would really be the difference? This is just pure control for control's sake. Go figure a leftist writer would be happy to gin it up.
Many governors, however, have decried protests to open up the country as precisely that — potentially harmful to the people who attend the demonstrations and to the many more who are following guidelines and staying at home.Well, that settles it now doesn't it? The Governor said this is harmful and even has an (R) after his name! Therefore you cannot ever do it, no matter what the reason and no matter how much other harm you (legitimately or illegitimately) are trying to avoid by changing the government policy. Meanwhile what if the protesters maintain this ever-so-important (and possibly -- pay attention Facebook -- total bullshit) social distancing rules? In the same way that if beer sales are essential as long as you stay 6ft apart, why can't protests be as well?
“I don’t think it’s helpful to encourage demonstrations and encourage people to go against the president’s own policy,” Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, said this weekend. “It just doesn’t make any sense.”
Representatives for the governors of New York, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania did not respond to requests for comment. A spokeswoman for Ohio Republican Gov. Mike DeWine said he has “acknowledged that the protesters have a First Amendment right to free speech,” adding: “He just asks that they practice social distancing.”Good job, DeWine.
Alex Stamos, director of the Stanford Internet Observatory and Facebook’s former chief security officer, said the groups constitute a form of domestic disinformation because they were being operated by users with financial and political motivations to sway public debate in unauthentic ways. He was especially alarmed by the possibility that the group’s creators were deriving personal benefit by stoking online anger about the public health measures.So let me get this straight: if conservatives form groups with political motivations to sway public debate then it's "unauthentic" and "domestic disinformation". Can Stamos perhaps be bothered to express exactly what public disinformation the protest (and not a random post from a member of the protest group) is spreading? That COVID-19 isn't as serious as we've been told? That's backed up by reality (barely) aligning with the lowest of the low end of the models. That economic concerns are also serious? That's a political question, not a scientific one: I addressed this almost a decade ago. Science cannot tell you how to enact public policy based on its "findings". When the findings are so unknown that your editor makes you put quote marks around them it becomes even more suspect. So yes, people with "financial and political motivations" are still allowed to "sway public debate". In fact, who else does it? When despicable uranist Tony Kushner wrote "Angels in America" to promote the sodomite lifestlye was he operating under "financial and political motivations to sway public debate in unauthentic ways"? Was he "deriving personal benefit" by stoking anger about "public health measures" by writing about faggots dying of AIDS? Kushner wins a bunch of faggy awards, Ben Dorr gets vilified by the Washington Post.
It’s always scams that drive the most ingenuity,” Stamos said.There's nothing "seemingly disparate". Conservative commentators around the globe are carefully tracking government overreach as organizations that supposedly are fighting the Wuhan Flu take actions that have incidental or often even completely orthogonal correlation to minimizing the spread of the virus. The founders and members of these groups are starting from the basic assumptions (do we need to do this at all?) and then proceeding to specific policies (what needs to be shut down and what can stay open) and the timeframe for them (why are we still doing this and when shall we stop?). Having evaluated everything and come up with opinions and ideas about it, these hundreds of thousands of Americans seek out others who agree with them and hope to reach critical mass and start influencing public officials. I'll guarantee you that when Zach Elwood wants to do something he does the same thing. Oh look, he does!
Zachary Elwood, a software engineer in Portland, Oregon, who blogs about disinformation and tracked some of the activity by the Dorr brothers, urged Facebook to crack down on small clusters of users coordinating seemingly disparate activity, especially when the activity involved harmful untruths.
“It’s understandable that people are upset about the difficult situation we’re in, but they’re clearly being riled up by people with an obvious anti-government agenda,” Elwood said. “Facebook shouldn’t make it so easy to do that.”Hey Zachary: send me your address so I can come punch you in the head until you bleed and get smarter. What's wrong with having an "obvious anti-government agenda"? What's wrong with Facebook -- supposedly a neutral site -- letting people easily create groups to enact the political change they want (even if it happens to be "anti-government")? Plenty of "anti-government" Facebook groups that I'm sure Elwood is a fan of are around. In fact that Politico story is interesting (emphasis mine):
The trove of new anti-Trump and left-leaning pages, many of which did not exist before November 8, are now nearly as popular on the social networking site as veteran publications that have been around for years.
“I think that part of the attraction of our news site is we try to be candid and direct,” Rather said. “We don’t spend much time debating ourselves about how to soften something or use a euphemism or even sophistry. I want to be as blunt as a punch in the nose.”
Two others, “Stand Up America” and “Donald Trump Is Not My President,” were created in the aftermath of the election, and now have close to one million and close to 500,000 followers, respectively. Another, the Democratic Coalition Against Trump, was founded in April 2016, and now has more than 250,000 followers.
These upstarts produce little original content, and in some cases barely come across as publications at all. Instead, they aggregate news stories that are often critical of Trump, adding piquant commentary that ensures maximum spread across Facebook.
“The energy and passion that we saw during the election still exists. Our goal is to tap into that and create something from that,” said Nate Lerner, executive director of the Democratic Coalition Against Trump. “If Mitt Romney had won [last year’s election], we wouldn’t be able to continue to campaign against him. Nobody would care.”But notice what far-left Zachary has to say about Occupy Democrats:
The anti-Trump pages bear some similarities to the right-wing news sites that powered Trump’s rise, in that they traffic in political anger and outrage, while providing news nuggets from across the web. For example, “Occupy Democrats,” which currently has 5.9 million followers, has been known to spread hyperbolic and misleading stories that do not hold up under fact-checkers’ scrutiny.
Obviously not all of the news shared and spread by these foreign sites and fake accounts is fake. Some of it is based in reality; even that stuff, though, is phrased in exaggerated and obviously distorted/biased ways. And of course a lot of it just flat-out lies.These are the sort of people that NewsBrig brings in at the bottom of the article to throw one last uncontested hook. NewsBrig needs to go to the brig. And the guards need night sticks.
You give one sentence saying that Occupy Democrats is known for the same stuff. If that is true, point to evidence of it. Link to articles (respected news sources only, please). I have no idea what you’re talking about and neither would I think most people.
I understand you have an emotional need to think that foreign people posting false and divisive propaganda and riling up our population isn’t meaningful, and that “everyone does it,” but to most people, it is clearly something to be concerned about and clearly comes more from one ideology than the other.
Bonus "organizing to protest lockdown restrictions are only bad when Republicans are involved media bias: when Israelis protest Benjamin Netanyahu’s restrictions the Daily Beast tag is BLACK FLAG but when Michigans do it its ENOUGH ALREADY.
Bonus "it's only misinformation when the other side does it": A New York Times author who discounted the Wuhan Flu on February 27th blames Sean Hannity's March 8th discounting of the Wuhan Flu for somebody's actions on March 1st.
